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I still could love this man with his faults which I know he has but he is so caring and nice. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). Am i trapping my self? House position isnt as strong as the sign of the Moon. When we left to go home I literally felt a piece of me inside left. We tried to stop but we couldnt be in the same room aloneI know it sounds nothing more than two horny people getting together but it really wasnt the same..or was it? Definitely karmic and unbreakable. A trauma might have triggered you before, making you a reserved person now. Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. The working dynamic of the partnership is in the biwheel (how do you make me feel?) Sorry, Natalia, I cant really comment on this in the space available. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. The 12th house has to do with summarizing and accepting all that has come before it, whereas first house planets are very pure, almost innocent, in their expression. The part about unrequited love was particularly interesting and that other part might not know what we exist. For him, its TOO many of his own issues. They usually experience issues with drugs or alcohol. One is more transpersonal and numinous, the other deals with our reactions in the day to day world. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. It might hold your answers, if you know how to read it properly. Just a knowing if you will. In synastry, I have my sun, mercury, and mars in his 12th house in pisces, and his venus in my 12th house in cancer/gemini. You need a synastry reading to make sense of all this. Thank you, Tricia. We also have composite Juno in Aquarius in the 4th house (opposing Mercury in the 10th and trining the Ascendant), and Venus tightly conjunct Saturn in the 11th (Leo). More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4 we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) Lilith square . . venus+mars, etc. Thank you very much. We have the ultimate intimacy side by side with the knowledge of ultimate separateness. Thank you SO very much for this post. A Venus in the 12th House man is a sweet, gentle, kind of person who likes to help both people and animals. Illusions yes I know. The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. Found the site while trying to decipher a stellium in a composite 12th house. I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. a strong karmic tie is indicated in the 12th house, or in the other water houses 4,8. We could look at each other and read one anothers minds, but not in a way where you hear words or anything. He literally proposed to me the night we met. Though many of the things you have said have been true, and there are challenges, I know we are committed to knowing each other and spending this precious time together. I dont know if what we have count as a heavy 12th house but we have our north nodes in the 12th with vesta in virgo, and our south nodes in the 6th with the vertex in pisces. I live in a kind of constant daydream /illusion of being near my beloved ghost I know this is not truth , but I dont know how I could do without. You will both be changed deeply by it. You mentioned that couples with 12th house emphasis usually come together for a specific purpose and once that is completed the relationship is destined to end (thats what I gathered anyway). The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Composite Saturn is in the 1st. Is Your experience the same? Learn how your comment data is processed. The Uranus/Mercury conjunction in the composite can make the relationship more mental than physical. Entering through my dreams, plenty of astral seduction going on out there in the ethers. This is my take on signs that have two rulersthere is a higher expression and a lower expression of the signs energy. Thoughts on this combo would be greatly appreciated by me. Synastries (especially composite charts) are complicated and if confused (or you feel threatened) you should consult a professional. Dawn, I just found this and it seems to hold some answers about what is going wrong with my marriage of 8 years. I cannot really make that happen now I dont know why but Im still thinking that he is my faith or not, everything is very confused. She has great remorse about it and is seeking help to try and put an end to it. The only way that you can figure out the main issue of karma in a relationship is to examine the nature of both Nodes and their rulers in the Composite, along with aspects to the Nodes. . The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. I thought I had become delusional, making things up in my head. *Composite Chiron conjunct Moon in Taurus in 12th house. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. Now, what to think of this powerful symbolism in the composite chart? His venus also opposed my Lilith in XII., his Pluto also trine my lilith in XII. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. All this seems to confirm your analyses of the other composite houses, as well. Composite Pluto in the 12th House With Composite Pluto in the 12th house, you may struggle over power and control in ways that aren't obvious. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). Its bad enough that we have difficulties with the 12th house when it involves the natal chart, but it often is downright cruel when were trying to negotiate its slippery slopes in a composite. You have nailed my experience. The attraction was instant. Is there something to be read from this cluster of planets in 12th house? The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. Guess our trines from Sun/Moon to Jupiter arent enough to off set. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. Overall, this is considered a favorable Lilith placement, as it is . I retire in one year and will be living 20 miles from him. MUCH APPRICIATED- i am forever greatful for your insights. Our lives are silly and sublime at once. Is it possible that 2 people with so much 12th/water house activity; both within synastry and composite, there is any hope for them to just be normal and happy together without karma or something else getting in the way? There are two conjunctions with ascendent as well. Only his Juipter is in the 12th, I have no planets there but also we both also have ceres and lilith in the 12th. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. There is a lot of love between us, much alignment in our dreams and life goals and a feeling of being soul mates and yet a strange disconnect emotionally that has us often feeling like we are on completely different wavelengths. This position can show one person makes all of the sacrifices and the other person takes everything . We have our composite sun in 12th house, along with saturn. And you may then limit yourself for years, into oblivion. but the rising is scorpio. Concentrate on intimacy and you should be all right. Neptune is also in the 12th, but hanging back a bit and squaring Neptune- yikes. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Lilith (M) 5 58' Leo . Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! I have been so confused and you describe it so accurately. so we find the True in each other. I have composite sun and moon in house 12 with my brother. Thank you. There is still a sense that anything can happen though, very unpredictable energy. Your emotions may also be cloudy and unclear at times, and your lack of boundaries may cause you trouble. Could I ask Your opinion? In composite we have north node in 12th. Most of it is illusions I know.. We are still friends and well always love each other. What to make of this? We met one day and it was ON, mutual, and understood without saying word. (We also have some 4th and 8th house synastry with me as the planet person, and 3 planets in the composite 4th). but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? Hi Daw The Pluto struggle with the ego and power will engage with the partners planetsin a positive way, the partner can become a guide. Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. One of my longest relationships featured a Lilith-Sun/Ascendant conjunction in synastry. That may mean leaving you behind. thanks Dawn! We have experienced together so much and it helps my mental developement so much and also your idea about loving and letting go interests me a lot. The south node lies there on the natal composite. Weve known each other for a decade??? :In a composite chart: What does it mean when both people have juno in the 12 House? Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. Im sure a lot of my readers have been there and sympathize with you completely. I am NOT usually like this. If you have Lilith in the 12 th house of your chart, her themes will manifest in terms of isolation, the shadow, and limitation. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. Lilith in the 12th house are really good at hiding their "lilith" nature and because of this they are usually popular. We fall, and find the world. Because, of Saturn and Pluto? I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! Lilith in 11th House Composite, Composite Lilith in 11th House With Composite Lilith in the 11th house, you can get along swimmingly as friends, regardless of the type of partnership. Whether the energy between them manifests positively or negatively has to do with aspects to Pluto in both charts and aspects with the North Node rulers. 12th house issues are not always supportive. Youre writing is inspired. I will look into it. I cant really comment without seeing the charts. Outer planets have to do with things that are beyond our control. It's time for the wave to return to the ocean. Im afraid that you would need a full synastry reading in order to make sense of the situation for you and your wife. Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. The higher powers are always tapping at the door, insisting on change, cleansing, and renewal from within (Pluto/Uranus in Virgo), but how do you do that if your connection to the other world and the higher powers are full of fear and resistant to the necessary dissolving that must occur (Saturn in Pisces). We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. They feel invisible or alone. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. We grasp for the handrail, and find nothing to hold on to. North Node conjuncts Desc. thank you for this article, im really having a hard time understanding the 12th house, as you concluded we all do.. and i dont know why, this last paragraph brought a tear to my eye.. because its so true, so well said.